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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2017 12:36:48 GMT
I know I'm not 'gay', because
I know I'm not 'gay' because________. (fill in the blank)
As long as in the 'flesh', I don't think most know what they are, only what they're suppose to be, based on social norms of the day, or religious guidance, other than that, 'Flesh wanders'.
Much more to follow, this is a ghost forum, so really all one has to do is read, and either one can relate or one cannot, it's that simple.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2017 12:59:55 GMT
I know I'm not gay, becauseI know I'm not gay, because whenever I run an add seeking 'same sex companion', like say on a lonely drunken Saturday or Friday night, whenever I run an add, as soon as anyone or people actually respond in a serious manner, I freak out. In other words I can be 'drunk gay', at times, I suppose, in that if feeling lonely, while drinking or drunk, well the goofy side comes out, and when alone, you don't want to be alone, period, is how one reasons when drunk and lonely. So I guess new term I've invented here is 'Drunk gay'. But when sober and in right state of mind, when go back and read peoples responses to add, I freak out, like 'Oh my gosh, what was I thinking', and then remove add. If I were truly 'gay', than I would not freak out once sober, if I were truly gay, I'd stay gay whether drunk or sober. Any intelligent person or being studies 'self', your self becomes like a lab. Now when I'm sober, there are certain others of same sex I do feel attracted to at times, but would never approach and tell them that, but often wonder if stranded on Island, with no one else around, would I then? But beyond being attracted to their physical attributes, does that mean I also want a relationship with them? Probably yes, I mean who doesn't want to have a friend, hang out pal, that are attracted to, but does being attracted to someone of same sex then mean you want to 'go to bed' with them? Rational people think about this stuff all the time, dishonest people do, but will say they don't. Anyways, back to am I gay or not, I think sometimes I am, on the inside, but by the time feelings surface, they're held back by social norms, community, peer pressure and more. But I think I'm more lonely, than gay, in that if a cute woman approached me, I'd be totally fine and happy with that, but they do not, so as such one gets lonely, and when lonely, for years, well like I've said before 'Loneliness is the window to many strange things'. I want people to be attracted to me, who doesn't? But since women seem to ignore me, a few years ago found out how wonderful it felt when another 'guy' was attracted to me, and for once didn't feel ugly, that did wonders for my self esteem. (Most women are to self centered and selfish to realize that males have emotional needs also) For years and years I'd, and still do, compliment women, never anything in return, it's always one way, like a one way drain. Then one odd evening, by accident, entered or was pulled into the world of male to male attraction, and it felt good, do to the mindset I was in at the time. Women totally take 'attraction' for granted, totally snub so many guys who give them compliments, where as I do not, and appreciate whomever is attracted to me, male or female. All that said, (to wrap this up), I still don't think I'm gay, lonely at times yes, gay, no. To be continued on next post shortly.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2017 13:28:32 GMT
Continued from above post(click to enlarge) 'I know I'm not gay because'...continued I think there's two types of 'gay' 1. Flesh gratification 2. Romance and Love, then maybe validated by more Usually when one runs an add, 95% of those who respond are simply looking for 'flesh gratification', in that all they want to do is scoop you up, wham bam, and done, next! They're not interested in your feelings, are you sorting things out inside, they could care their less, their on the clock, it's like 'now wow cow man', gone and out of here'...is their mentality. And that's what scares the 'unsure' like myself, in that would dread being used, by a creep, for a short minute, and then discarded, and left to ponder rest of life over that 'moment'. It happens that way with many though, I suppose. It's funny, whenever I do think I'm open to being gay, all I have to do is read the m4m section on any craigslist listing, and within reading 5 posts totally turned off. It's like a meat factory on there... And most of those posting are bi-sexual types, who are gay by night, straight as a rod during the day, dual life types. By night they want to get their freak on with you, by day they're the coordinator of this project. Like vampires who transform once night time arrives. If I were ever to 'cross over', I could only be the 'romantic' type of gay type, in that I'd want a real relationship with respect, mutual respect. I'd treat my male partner the same way I'd treat a woman, or vice versa, if I were the 'fem' one, I'd expect to be treated kindly and with dignity, no abuse allowed, unless role playing...LOL..(yes, I do have a sense of humor) Anyways, got a ton of other things to do, more thoughts added to this board as time goes on, some you'll agree with, others you may not, and that's OK.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2017 17:36:58 GMT
What turns me off from being 'gay'
1. Most closet, bi-sexual males just want fly by the night experience, after that back to wife, job, 'normal' life, where as I desire long term, life long, relationship or 'ships' whether with a male or female.
The main thing that prevents me from fully exploring same sex relationships is the 'short' nature of such relationships, and the graphic 'meat factory' of such relationships.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2017 17:43:18 GMT
Bi-sexual closet types tend to treat you more like a 'freak', rather than a 'being', who is alive and has emotional needsBi-sexual types, closet types, those who post on C/L, tend to treat you more like a treat or 'meat', rather than as someone with conscious thought, concerns and values. A true 'gay' person will actually try to take care of you and court you, where as a closet fetish type of gay person will only abuse and use you.
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2017 18:03:54 GMT
It's sickos who prey on the vulnerabilities of others, who give 'gays' a bad nameIt's sickos, who prey on the vulnerabilities of others, who give gays a bad name. To me, wanting to be 'loved' and 'cherished' by another, when alone and single, is not a sin, rather it's 'instinct'. But 'sickos' exploit that, and turn ones needing to be 'loved', embraced, and cared for, into 'porn'. Not every male or female will be paired in this world, just not possible, but while alive, still need 'love'...so sorry preacher types don't get that. And this C/L add agrees... link = bi sexual vampires
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2018 17:16:24 GMT
Nature always seeks a balanceTo me, and the honest thinking types, 'Nature always seeks a balance'... The stuff I lay down on here, write about, will be used by others far after I'm gone, I like that but it also sickens me in that I'm always years, if not decades, ahead of the intellectual curb. But rather than others thanking me, giving me credit, they simply read, pretend they already knew, and then rob my intellectual property. Read my forums, posts, and you'll see that everything that is mainstream today, concerning gender identity, was being written about, expressed on these back alley, ignored forums years ago...but no, zero, credit...people are rotten and just steal rather than promote, humans are small, very small. Sorry for the rant, I just get sick of always being the brave one that paves the road for others, who never realize you're paving the road for them. Oh well...1, 2, 3, calm. The above pic is of a male of color, tall and slender. This idea that to be a male of color, must physically fit the nightmarish perception of others also sickens me...people are cruel. Both the left and right are cruel. (not sure why this sudden emotional outburst, this was suppose to be a soft post) 1. Wanting to see softer side of self reflected DOES NOT MEAN ONE is GAY! Just because another male 'attracts you' doesn't mean they want to be humped by you. Not everyone is 'paired' and when women, or females are single or alone, they routinely practice their more masculine side, dress up in cowboy boots, wear jeans, basically mimic all that which is male, and no questions asked. Yet when a male, who's single, tries achieving similar balance, they're considered a freak, or gay, or this or that. A female can be enlisted in the Marine Corps, be dressed in combat gear during the day, than at night switch other to high heels and a dress...yet let a male try doing the same. Double standard crap, humans are good at that. Females are allowed the full range of their natural beings, yet males expected to simply stay stuck in one corner of their expressive rights. Everything in the media is so gosh dern predictable. In closing, just because a guy, or male, wants to see self reflected in a more softer light, doesn't mean they're gay!
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2018 3:30:24 GMT
It really is sadIt really is sad how male expression has been catigorized. In other words the fact that some want to look 'neat' and interesting to self means they have to be a pin up sl_t to another? I mean it's why you cannot find 'T-girl' art, crossdresser art, tranny art, sissy art, queer art, that just stands on it's own without the 'P' element. I mean how come whenever you type in T girl, or sissy or cross dresser art, it searches always lead you to porn? Just because one is a T girl or 'other' doesn't mean one wants to be tackled and humped by some bi-sexual male in a porn shoot. But sadly that's how alternative male identities have been deemed. If you portray yourself, as a male, as expressing any other identity through art, fashion, ect, other than typical male attire, perception is that you're gay, and thus want to attract and be humped by whatever. Thus there is no room for mainstream T girl or sissy or queer art in that it's only associated with porn. Why? It's sickening when you think about it, the exploitation of a certain identity. I don't get how wanting to look and feel beautiful to self, whether through art or real life transition always has to equate into wanting to get humped by a bi-sexual male. I wish the day would come when T girls and others of that genre, could learn to be beautiful independent of sexual prowess. Until then, male alternative art will never ever be taken seriously, and instead always lumped into the 'P' category. It's why my art is 'P' free, and instead focuses on 'moods' and 'tones' of life that complex beings go through and feel on the inside. But outside of my art depictions, I just can't seem to find similar art anywhere, so very sad, at least to me, a person trying to find a similar community, I mean am I just that different? Beauty without exploitation, is that concept so odd?
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Post by Admin on Mar 6, 2020 14:49:56 GMT
I'm just as alienated from the LGBTQ community as I am from the Hetero community
I'm just as alienated from the LGBTQ community as I am from the Hetero community.
I mean there was a time when thought I could weave myself into the LGBTQ community, but it just never occurred, aside from going to 'Gay' nightclub, but always went there alone and left alone.
I just never really connected with anyone sexually, sure I had a likable personality and all, but was more like a 'fixture' in the place more so than someone who 'you' would want to take home...hard to explain.
Not only that but the worst time to try to meet others, especially 'gay males', is when you're drunk.
If you can only be 'gay' when drunk or stoned or high, than you really aren't gay at all, but rather just lonely.
Hetero sexuality really only meant to fulfill one purpose, and that purpose is to pro-create, and to raise off spring in a stable environment.
But there are plenty of people out there who are lonely, but either have already raised their kids and family, or don't have any, who still are lonely.
And maybe not all people of opposite sex fit the unique comforting desires of others.
Take males for example...when younger, boys look up to their fathers, uncles, grand dad ect...strong male figures who comfort.
What people never think about is what about when males get older, then who comforts them?
Who comforts a 45 year old male?... Males always expected to be the dominant comforter, but we all know people are more complex than that, in that no matter how tough one may look or be perceived by others, on the inside of all men, is still that little 'boy' who wants desperately to look up to another stronger than them.
Is why you often here celebrity males in their 50's, 60's, still reference their Dads.
It's complex, stuff meant more for University class room discussion, rather than public blog.
People want to be comforted, even males, and not all females are able to comfort all males.
And vice versa...again it's complex.
Then you through in style, culture, mannerism, and match making can be very complex, and go way beyond specific gender assigned roles.
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Post by Admin on Apr 16, 2020 1:01:58 GMT
I know I'm not 'gay' in the classical sense because when I see two rough males, kissing, like on TV or on some 'gay dating site add', I'm repulsed by it, like two guys, who both look macho, with beards, kissing, I'm repulsed by it.
But on the other hand, if the bearded guy were kissing a clean shaven soft male, than I'm not as repulsed because I see 'opposite dynamics' occurring.
Nature always seeks a balance, now the two bearded men kissing could be balanced, but that balance would be internal, like based on one being dominant, and the other submissive so to speak.
But visually, seeing two bearded, husky guys kiss, provides no visual balance, at least not to me.
But if one was or is truly gay, than two bearded men kissing is 'the norm'.
But 'my norm' is physical as well as internal balance.
And not every female provides that 'balance', and the ones who do, or would, always seem to be paired already.
The only way I'd feel comfortable in a same sex relationship is if the person I was with was my physical opposite, regardless of gender.
If it were a male, they'd have to be 'soft' (my definition of soft), or they'd have to be 2-4 times more 'hard' than myself, where then I could relax and play the 'darling role'...chuckle.
But could never physically fall for another with my exact same qualities, cause it would be like looking in the mirror and dating own self, which basically is the gold standard of a true gay/Lesbian person, anything else is a derivative of that.
A Butch Lesbian, is seeking that 'balance' as well, is why a butch Lesbian always seeks a soft flower like female mate to be with or dominate.
But if seeking that 'opposite' within same gender, is that or can that truly be considered being gay?
But if seeking that 'opposite' within same gender, is that or can that truly be considered being gay?
If a male seeks feminine qualities in another male, are they truly gay? If a woman seeks masculine qualities in another woman, are they truly gay?
These are questions maybe a psychologist would have to answer.
And to complicate it, what if a male has more fem qualities than a female, are you still suppose to be attracted to the female, even if the female looks more manly than the male?
What would that be called?
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2020 5:24:58 GMT
After a while, you stop caring what the hell you are, or what others think you are, after a while, all you just want is a hug After a while, the older you get, you stop defining yourself in terms of sexual anything, and simply want, desire, a hug. But to Christians, or any insecure type, even that is 'bad' and 'evil', so instead sentenced to a life of loneliness and isolation because so terribly misunderstood. Sad how only until an 'event' takes place, do all the Fkn experts then and only then notice you, try to understand you, and then try to 'shame' others for not paying closer attention. Well right now, I 'shame' the experts and 'others'. I shame others for being so 'flesh', while claiming to believe in a 'God' that is spirit. I shame others for not being able to perceive the world beyond the own tip of their nose. I shame others for being so cruel, shallow and mean spirited. I shame Pastors for spreading fear and hate, not directly, but through 'notions', which is even more effective than direct hate, which most would recognize. I shame store clerks, both white and black, who look at me when I walk into store as if there to do them harm, how dare them rob me of dignity like that. I shame urban 'B' males for totally embracing the whole dark 'thug' persona, thus casting shadows on the rest of us who want nothing to do with that ugly, artificial, invented 'sway'. I shame 'B' mothers for unleashing hell onto this earth by raising kids outside of marriage, thus robbing them of a more balanced inner self. I shame 'B' mothers for failing to recognize a Fatherly man vs a street pimp. And I shame 'experts' for only stepping in after a tragedy has occurred, and then trying to act as if you have a handle on it. You, expert you, you have a handle on nothing, rather you, the experts, you bury and hide people like me until you're able to define 'us', in your terms. Experts are human to, who hide behind a wall of arrogance. Anyways, I've said my piece.
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Post by Admin on Apr 11, 2021 15:45:26 GMT
I think I know I'm not gay cause I don't have any gay friends or lovers
The main reason why I know I'm not gay is cause I have no gay friends or lovers.
Gay people think I'm just as weird, colorfully weird as I guess regular 'straight' people do.
And maybe cause my taste in flesh is so specific.
And what I do like, am attracted to, I can never have, for people who fit my definition of attractive totally ignore me in social settings, so the only time I get to glance eyes at them is in professional setting, as in if they happen to be a cashier or nurse or biologist ect, but once social setting ends, they want nothing to do with me, or so it seems.
I'm just not wanted by anyone or anything other than animals I toss bread to, but even they only want me for the food I feed them.
Yes, if I were gay, than I'd have gay friends, and would be rolling around under the sheets, but that's not me, I'm celibate, singular and alone...that just seems to be my destiny and fate.
But there's a lot you can do with singular and alone, especially if begin to focus on self, and even spoil self, hug self, gift self, since the women/cute Androgynous types rejected 'you'.
All you can do is sit back and watch as their lives 'rot' and yours gets better...no shame, cause you tried, you most certainly did try.
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Post by Admin on Apr 11, 2023 17:54:16 GMT
Actually, I don't think any of us know what we areWe know what we think we don't want to be, but not wanting to be a certain way or think a certain way doesn't mean that's not what we are. gay, straight, lesbian, this that, just words designed to lock people into one static space.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2023 2:41:21 GMT
I met a woman, about 1 month ago, it was all good for a while, I thought I'd finally found 'the right one'...but now, not sure. Seems guys, males, who meet women just don't live long, is why it seems older women are always single.
I think women can be dangerous to men, make men stress out more, get men into fights with other men, break a mans heart thus making that man kill themselve, or the woman kills man cause she wants that life insurance.
Just seems to be a lot of older widowed females, I wonder why.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2023 2:42:53 GMT
I also realize not being attracted to certain women does not mean you're gay, it just means you're not attracted to certain women, maybe their mannerism, maybe their size, their looks, ect. But not being attracted to certain other women does not mean you're gay...or want to be.
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